Who is skrull?

Xeall · Who is skrull?

Every post i go onto seems to have at least one person talking about skrull. I know i'm included on that, so i have created this to get it out of the way.

I ask you all who you think the skrull is (luke cage baby not included) and a shiney penny will be awarded by me to the winner/s!

My guess is the women from stamford who tony stark kept meeting with, i can't remember her name.

So i open:

Skrull guess who?

Longshot

I think both Spiderwoman and Elektra are arent they, and maby one of the 7 wolveriens.

Ohh yeah, the Beatles who might now be the monkeys, but they're out there too. [read Wisdom MAX limited]

Reaper

See I'm wondering if Spider-Woman is too obvious now.... they seem to want to keep this out of our reach for a while, it might be someone who doesn't feature all that often in the main series.

Xeall

I don't think spider women as she apologized to logan and didn't try to kill them to cover it up, they were all down, would have been the right decision if she was skrull.

Robin The Boy Wonder

I'm adamant Spider-Woman is a Skrull.

In New Avengers 30, Doctor Strange casts a spell on all of the New Avengers following Hawkeye's arrival. Essentially, the spell is designed to assess the purity of heart of all those assembled. With the exception of two, each character simply bathes within the spell; some smiling, some non-plussed.

Luke Cage's baby laughed throughout with Strange dismissing the reaction as the purity of a child.

Spider-Woman appeared aghast, attempted to cover her face and, after, appeared to react as if she were choking while the other characters remained generally unfazed. Why would Spider-Woman react so... and none of the others...? And then we have the next question... why didn't Strange notice...? How can the Skrull bypass his magic...?

As for other characters, I sincerely hope Reed Richards is a Skrull - the change of status quo within the FF is sorely needed. Even with Civil War, the book looks like it's going nowhere (come October, Black Panther & Storm are off the team with Reed & Sue restored). This is a change that could date all the way back to the end of the Kree/Skrull war (as seen in Illuminati) where the Skrull possibly took the identity of one of Marvel's secret cabal.

That... and perhaps Janet Van Dyne. She seems to be leading a completely separate life to Hank Pym (and without explanation) and even appears to have found a new love (Avengers: Initiative 2 suggests this).

The more likely options though are Namor (somebody from The Illuminati has to be a Skrull) and D-Man!

Reaper

i still don't think Spider-Woman is a Skrull even after reading the reasons why Major Spoilers think she is (I'm guessing you read the same thing Boy Wonder?).

Xeall

Spider womens reaction is probably to do with her involvment with hydra. unless that ended, i missed a chunk. re reading front line i think its impossible for tony stark to be skrull after his hissy fit in the last few pages.

kingmouse

Maybe Joe Q is the Skrull! Shocked

Guest

One things for sure.... Dan Dildo is the skrull of the DCU!!!!

Reaper

Noooooo he's Galactus

kingmouse

Well in an interview about The Initiative this week Dan Slott was asked if (won't say character's name as it's a bit of a spoiler) was a skurll and he replied, "No, he's not the skrull."

He then laughed it off and wouldn't say whether that meant there was only one, but it's possible we could be looking at just one skrull in a really important position.

Guest

Na, I will put money on there being more than one.

Web of Fear

Yeah, I think it will take more than one skrull to invade Earth. Smile

Xeall

Web of Fear

In Illuminati #2 (I think) as the Illuminati escape the skrulls they say something about getting their revenge on Earth. I'm at work at the minute so I can't check the exact wording, but people are taking that as a precursor comment to the invasion plan.

Xeall

maybe their revenge is making every one suspect each other?

Still people there is a shiney penny at stack and some of you have not put down who you think it is! In the event of a draw each winner will rcieve a penny

Longshot

Seriously there are 4 skrull's in a band still living on earth, in the UK i believe, so i want my 4 pennies now.

Xeall

until marvel tell me your right no pennies will be awarded!

Longshot

Read Wisdom MAX, one of the members in the Mi13 team is Skrull John.

Xeall

.......*"$%.........mumble......... Idea

.......its collect only! i seem to remember reading you live far away. which has nothing to do with the collect only bit....oh no no no.

Batmanuel

Web Of:

kingmouse

I'm the Skrull and so's my wife!

Xeall

Well that was nice of the new avengers to tell us nothing this issue (33). However it does appear that luke cage is paranoid as hell. Also proves he doesn't know about his green eyed baby girl.

Anyone remember the heroes for hire civil war thing with skrull organs? Maybe has something to do with that?

Reaper

Anyone read Avengers Illuminati #5 yet? Interesting stuff in that one.

Just read New Avengers 36 and have to say I really liked this issue, the discussion between Cage and this other half (can't remember her name) about the preceeding events, thought it was really nicely done and fairly true to couple conversations. Had some good stand out moments and some good dialogue all the way though 'So deathlok wasn't a skrull?... We should start making a list' Very Happy

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Really getting into Yu's artistic style now, he has a real natch for drawing women.

And the ending was quite cool... spoilers don't work so please try and avoid reading the next bit..

Scene with Wolvie and Jessica Drew in the shower was quite well handled and made me laugh at how they covered all the extremities.
Wtf is Thor doing there?

Xeall

thor has gone bad ass and is owning everything for great justice.

I actually think that conversation between luke cage and his other half (jessica again i think) actually proved to me she could be a skrull!

I know i know but hear me out

When luke cage asks how she and the baby avoided infection, she quickly shrugs it off to being the house and then immediatly asks to leave.

as if to say 'the house makes bad things not happen, do you mind if we leave so it can?' then she trys to make luke more paranoid even though now he seems to have come to terms with it

Reaper

Think I might have to re-read that section

Xeall

very subtle if your not looking for it, or me reading into it to much

Xeall

Want another answer? read avengers initiative annual, first part of thesecret invasion and a very nice round up comic covering all points.

Robin The Boy Wonder

Here's the cover to Ms Marvel 25, shipping March.

Should provide some talking points as to who one of the Skrulls may be; although, of course, this is Marvel so the cover may be very misleading... Smile

Reaper

It's Howard the Duck

Robin The Boy Wonder

It might be the Ultimate Universe's Green Goblin; albeit with big boobs! Smile

Xeall

they are actually skrull clones of peter parker! Very Happy

Robin The Boy Wonder

I wonder if he would name his right breast Peter and his left one Harry...

Just a thought!

Anyhoo, back to topic.

Ms Marvel. Skrull. Yea or Nay?

Xeall

nay, some story of a skrull trying to replace Ms marvel and thats where we see what they do with the people they replace

Robin The Boy Wonder

I think 'Yea'.

Makes sense that there's a Skrull on the Mighty Avengers roster and I see no reason why it couldn't be her.

Reaper

The reason I don't think its her because they've released a cover with a Skrull version of her on the front. One of the things they want to do is keep this Skrull unknown for as long as possible so its a bit shock when its finally revealed. Marvel do do some stupid crap at times but they know how to market things to bring in the buyers without giving away the story.

Robin The Boy Wonder

Of course, Marvel could reveal at the end of Ms Marvel 25 that she isn't a Skrull before then unveiling her as a Skrull anyway in the very first issue of Secret Invasion.

Imagine that twist, folks! Shocked

Web of Fear

They're all skrulls! Shocked

Robin The Boy Wonder

Now there's Marvel's latest ret-con.

Have every Marvel character be a Skrull for the last 20 years and then bring every character back as they used to be way back when with no current modernisation. Wink

Reaper

How would they react to the SHRA?

Robin The Boy Wonder

The heroes would probably all rebel against the SHRA and then be killed in a fashion not too dissimilar to the one presented in What If? Civil War (actually quite a good read; surprised me too!).

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I've been going over the teaser poster for Secret Invasion...

I can understand why every character featured has been included (even Captain America & Howard the Duck) but Phoenix...? And featured so prominently too...?

I'm sure it's just promotional only but it does make me think a little about Jean Grey... After all, she's been dead four years now... Isn't it about time Marvel brought her back to life...?

Reaper

I wouldn't argue with that...... well actually I probably would because they can't keep doing it.

Robin The Boy Wonder

Of course they can!

This is Marvel - bringing back dead people is their speciality!

Xeall

one person who should keep coming back is the phoenix, makes sense. Jean grey will be normal only the phoenix entity will be a skrull......keep Joe Q away form it!

Reaper

*grumbles angrily*

Guest

Joe Q is a Skrull.....

I mean, up to a few months back everything was going so well then "Joe Q" devised and "drew" One More Day.....

Reaper

Either way he's still on the list.....

Batmanuel

Boy Wonder:

Xeall

now that is impressive

Xeall

OK with secret invasion starting very soon i'm running a book on this one.

Guess who the skrull is in these teams

Mighty Avengers
New Avengers
New warriors
X-men (there has to be one)
Thunderbolts
Fantastic 4?

They said every team so guess away. Oh and bonus for guessing an independant hero.

Guest

Should that not be "skrullS".

Who said there was only one in a team?

Xeall

truth, still guess away so we don't get 'ah i thought that was going to happen' after

Batmanuel

Hark at Mr i can spell for England opinion picking up on someone's grammer. Laughing

ah wots teh motter ten Wink

Xeall

ok sod ya i'm gonna start

Mighty avengers: Wonderman (simon)

New avengers: Spider-man, saved a possible skrull baby as his first action when the hood turned up and needs to be removed from new avengers now OMD has screwed it.

Guest

Bats

Xeall

if wolverine is a skrull again i swear i'm marching to marvel with my slapping hand ready while wearing a punisher T-shirt. However more than a slap and a loud 'NO' will be required for a certain Joe Q.

Batmanuel

Reaper

For it to have any impact (Complete opposite to Goliaths death in CW) it will need to be someone who is fairly important but to an extent low key in the major story stakes. So not CapA, Iron-Man or anyone who has their own series I would say.

Robin The Boy Wonder

First things first, Marvel have always made it very clear that Tony Stark is not a Skrull - purely because of the damage such a reveal would cause to Civil War.

Anyhow, my two cents.

New Avengers

Spider-Man would be a good guess here although that may also depend on what costume he's wearing post-The Truth. It's very interesting to note the difference in characterisation when comparing New Avengers to, say, Back in Black. I'm also reminded of Brand New Day (Slott's arc) when Peter comments on how he hasn't been in costume since the end of Civil War (after Mephisto undid the last year's worth of story with a snap of the fingers - if only he could do that to Howard Mackie & John Byrne's run). If that is indeed the case, then just who is that masked man?

Doctor Strange is a possible; however, I think only one member of the Illuminati was ever going to be revealed as a Skrull. Seeing as how that person was Black Bolt, I'm doubting the good Doctor is anything other than human (super, that is).

I'd laugh out loud if Clint Barton was a Skrull. But it won't be. Even though he should be. Just to piss off the three Hawkeye fans out there.

Wolverine won't be a Skrull; and I have the distinct impression that Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run pre-dates Messiah Complex.

The Night Nurse, anyone...?

Let's not forget, I think we all know that Luke's baby is a Skrull (New Avengers 31). And if the baby is a Skrull, what of Jessica Jones...?

Mighty Avengers

I like the idea of Wonder Man as a Skrull. Wears glasses; conceals his eyes; enjoying a relationship with Ms Marvel.

I also like the idea of The Wasp being a Skrull. After all, her split with Hank Pym was rather abrupt, wasn't it...?

Fantastic Four

No Skrulls here. Besides, if one of the FF were a Skrull, Millar's run would be tying into Secret Invasion. Quite simply, it isn't as there's going to be a separate mini tying into the larger arc, released in May.

X-Men

I don't think so. They've just endured Messiah Complex with the subsequent plan to re-establish the X-Men's world from the ground up. There may be a mini to tie in but that'll probably be about it.

Avengers: Initiative

Could be any of them. I think Gyrich is a Skrull (will be a shame but there we go). Beyond that, I really wouldn't like to day.

Oh... and I think Batmanuel may be a Skrull...

Reaper

I KNEW IT!

Xeall

so boy wonder not committing any guesses just saying who could be. I want solid answers for us all to laugh at when this is all over. When i say laugh at i mean you! Very Happy

OK main suggestions so far are

New avengers

Spider-man
Dr strange (btw boy wonder who says its the same strange?)
Baby

Mighty avengers

Wonderman
Wasp

X........people

Jamie Maddox clone
Wolverine again!

Initative

Gryich
Hank Pym

Fantastic 4

No one! remember this.

We have still the new warriors and possibly the thunderbolts to think about. Also i'm going to poo poo the Hank Pym suggestion after recent events in avengers initative. keep them coming

Batmanuel

Boy Wonder:

Xeall

Batmanuel

Did i mention that i think Captiain Marvel is a Skurll?

I didn't...

I think Captiain Marvel is a Skurll?

Xeall:

kingmouse

I kinda hope Gyrch isn't a Skrull as I kinda like him as a character and I think he works the way he is. I'd love it if everyone thinks that he's been replaced as a way of explaining his behavior since the initiative, but in reality it turns out that Gyrch is just a dick to start with.

I'm 90% sure that Black Widow is one after her rather blatent "looking on grimly" panals the last couple of times people have mentioned Skrulls (check the last New Avengers) and her reluctance to let Spider Woman on the team. Not sure how that would tie into her appearences in Captain America, but that's only semi-continuity these days anyway.

That said, I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say Spider Woman is possibly a Skrull as well and that they'll use it to pull a swirve in the plot by making out that she deliberatly took the body to Stark in order to provoke panic.

Sentry's Wife is another strong candidate given her recent wobbliness and the fact she's been asking Stark to kill or depower Sentry.

The Hood is certainly a possible, since nobody really seems to know where he came from and what the nature of his powers are. He's certainly done plenty to disablise the Avengers and he's a Bendis baby. Personally I'd rather he wasn't, but we'll see.

Wonder Man is probably worth betting on as well due to his being the Giant Man of the Mighty Avengers (important enough to be a big reveal, not important enough for anyone to complain if he dies)

I'm trying to remembr who else has SI tie ins booked as that'll probably give it away a bit. There will be a couple of X-Men, but I don't know enough about them to say for sure. It probably won't be anyone major as they're too wrapped up in Post Messiah Complex stuff to loose a big player or find out Xavier was an alien or something dumb.

Batmanuel

STARK !!!! yes ! (while thusting fist in a downward action) Laughing

Xeall

well i don't think he is, but still a valid anti stark conversation that is completly true in secret invasion 3. we warned you all.

Batmanuel

well,
the shit really is hitting the fan.
Pym, that loyal preregistration hero is Skrull.
Not only that but has been since before breakout (which some of you may remember)

but the most interesting thing i have heard is,

Not is Iron man a Skull, or Pym a Skull.

Not was mankind duped into putting all it honest heroes in the negative zone jail.

Not the unjust and appalling way the last Thunderbolts (up until now one of the most awesome comics being published) story concluded

But the suggestion that when the Skrull takeover enters its penultimate stage, there will be those amongst us humans that will support it.

So it seems it has come full circle, and the question is the same

Whose Side Are You On

Skrull or Human Exclamation

Reaper

I have my own side with thermo-nuclear weapons.... you may join but you must bring biscuits!

Batmanuel

He loves you, he really does, except the inevitable,
for a better way of life. Call 555 555 SKRULL if you
know someone who is not yet convinced.

Xeall

is that starks hand? Very Happy

Batmanuel

I think it may be. and here is the result of that little indiscretion.

The green brats Tony's Laughing

Robin The Boy Wonder

I have a final suggestion as to who may be Skrull...

Please bear in mind I've only recently read the third month's worth of Secret Invasion so am two months behind the rest of you so if this has already been covered (and I'm unaware), then I humbly apologise.

Y'see, I seem to recall that Luke Cage's & Jessica Jones' baby may be a Skrull. It was certainly suggested as such in the final panel of New Avengers 31. This would suggest to me that at least one of his parents is a Skrull, perhaps both.

I noted from Secret Invasion 3 that Spider-Woman suggested to Tony Stark that he was a Skrull, albeit one who was buried deeply within the Stark persona so that the Skrull within wouldn't even realise he/she was a Skrull. Now I believe this is pure misdirection on Bendis' part; however, the suggestion is enough to persuade me that there may be someone else who is playing a deep-rooted role for the Skrulls.

I've also noticed that in the Skrull meeting scenes in both Mighty & New Avengers that there always appears to be a Skrull who is fully blacked out - suggesting to me there is another reveal to come. A twist of magnificent proportions, perhaps.

And then I remembered the baby - a potential Skrull/Human hybrid...? If so, who's the Skrull...?

The obvious choice would be Jessica Jones.

The less-obvious choice, and the one I'm plumping for at the moment, is Luke Cage. Yes, that Luke Cage.

I can't help but feel there would be a wonderful irony in having Cage be a deep-rooted Skrull, one who had no recollection of his even being a Skrull. A character who has been so vehement against the Skrull cause, refusing to trust anyone after the events of New Avengers 31, somebody who even began to doubt his wife and child.

Of course, Bendis won't have the balls and he'll go with either Jessica Jones or claim misdirection on the baby after the event.

Reaper

Oooooh interesting idea. I think it's the next issue this week (not that, that helps you)

Web of Fear

The final Secret Invasion's out - who's read it?

Batmanuel

Got it in hand, going to read it to night and savor it while sipping my hot chocolate Very Happy

But whats this on the last page... Aggghhh, i don't believe i just did that, i only unconsciously flipped to the final page, or did i, or was it all part of a larger plan?

One clue and one clue only as i don't want to spoil the fun for everyone.

If you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas Wink

Reaper

I read it earlier today. It wasn't quite as explosive as I was expecting the last issue to be, but it does set up a lot of story threads for the new series that are starting soon and has changed the Marvel landscape quite a bit..... but come on, Norman Osborn?!

Longshot

Can't be bothered reading this could someone please just tell me what happened, and will it affect the X-Men???

Batmanuel

No... and No Smile

waffle

Oh for goodness sake!

Another big Marvel event and another lazy cop-out ending.

Yes, the Osborne stuff is going to lead to all kinds of interesting developments, but that's neither here nor there. When it comes to the actual Skrull side of the story, they may as well not have bothered.

'What happened?'

'Thor happened.'

Well whoopde-fckn-doo, what an amazing and well thought-out twist that was. Just like Civil War, just like BND, none of this could have happened and we wouldn't be any different. We didn't necessarily need the Skrull invasion in order to make Osborne a hero, it could have been done in any number of ways. I'm not saying that Dark Reign isn't going to be interesting, because it is, but the ending was just total crap.

SCENE OPENS

AN ANONYMOUS OFFICE, THE AIR THICK WITH SMOKE AND COFFEE FUG. THREE BLEARY-EYED MARVEL WRITERS SIT STARING AT THE WALL, DRUMMING THEIR FINGERS ON THE TABLE, AND PICKING THEIR NOSES.

Marvel writer 1: "Er guys, we've kind of written ourselves into a corner here. The Skrulls are smarter, stronger, have thought of everything, have kicked everyone's arse and there really isn't a logical way of ending the story without enslaving all of mankind."

Marvel writer 2: "How about the devil makes everything go away?"

Marvel writer 3: "Nah, we've already done that."

Marvel writer 2: "How about the Skrull queen realises the error of her ways and, despite the last few months, just decides to back down."

Marvel writer 3: "Nope. People aren't going to buy that a second time."

Marvel writer 1: "I think we're screwed guys. It's a shame we don't have Superman to work with. He could just fly in and fix it all....."

A METAPHORICAL LIGHTBULB APPEARS ABOVE EACH WRITER'S HEAD.

Marvel writer 1: "Are you thinking what I'm thinking..."

All together: "Thor!"

THE THREE POLESMOKERS HIGH FIVE AND GO HOME EARLY, LAUGHING GREEDILY AT HOW THE STUPID MARVEL FANS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EAT ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR LAME-ASS ENDINGS.

SCENE ENDS

Screw you Marvel. I want the last six months of my life back.

Batmanuel

Waffle old bean, where have you been?

I have to agree to a certain degree that the Secret Invasion ending was a bit of a pop rather than a bang, i would have like to have seen more on the interaction between human and skrull in the embrace change scenario which to all intents was hinted at and then skipped over, the collaborator mentality could have been explored here with great effect.

Don't sic on Thor too much hell one of the reasons the skulls planned the attack when they did is because they though he was dead, otherwise they wouldn't have dared.

But it wasn't just Thor who helped win the War, it was the solid determination of mankind, (well a small percentage of mankind) that was instrumental in the skull downfall.

but is it not always the way, the penultimate chapter in a story is always better than the final issue? cast your mind back to the Thunderbolts story by Ellis. as an example.

and yes it can be painful i know, deep breaths, take deep breaths, felling better now Laughing

Conradical

Awesome post waffle, it makes the secret invasion board meeting sound just like the meeting to decide the name for Meatloaf's new album. They all look at him, and he goes "Well, what's better than Bat out of Hell?" They all look at each other. Bat out of Hell 2 it is! "Wait, what about the next one?" Papa Meatloaf just puts three fingers up. Bat out of Hell, Thor, same issue. He does have a cool hammer though.

One thing I have to clear up, I don't have my copy of Secret Invasion 8 with me right now, but can someone please tell me I wasn't seeing things, when the spaceship with all the Skrull's prisoners opened up, revealing a pooload of Shield agents, there WAS, I repeat, there WAS ELVIS in there with them, right!?! I know that's what I saw. He was on the right of the double page spread, near the back, I think. Please someone tell me I didn't imagine that. The King!

Batmanuel

Well with hair like that, it sure as hell could be.

nicely spotted,

anyone with a reasonable explanation as to why this isn't the old Druggie Burger Muncher stand and deliver:)