Robin The Boy Wonder
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Whatever Comics Awards 2008The Whatever Comics Awards 2008
Time flies when you’re having fun, doesn’t it?
It doesn’t feel like an entire year has passed since we celebrated 2007’s finest; and now, we get to do it all over again for 2008 as we celebrate the year that was by honouring those who stood out ahead of all others in our comic book industry. Awards season will soon be upon us, and we here at Whatever Comics like to celebrate the year past before anyone else has the chance to do so.
This is our third consecutive annual Whatever Comics Awards and, before we proceed any further, I think it rather appropriate we take a moment to thank Manny and Debe for all their hard work over the last 12 months. It’s been a transitional year for the two of them as they moved premises within Canterbury and I’m sure you will all join me in thanking them for their efforts in making the transition as smooth as possible for their customers, despite the tremendous upheaval it likely caused them. So, to Manny and Debe, thank you so very much for all of your hard work and we all hope you continue to prosper in 2009.
And now, without further ado, let’s turn our attention to The Whatever Comics Awards 2008!
Votes may be cast in the following categories:
Best Writer
Best Artist
Best Ongoing Series
Best Limited Series (includes One-Shots)
Best Graphic Novel (does not include TPB’s)
Best Moment
Best Comic Book Related Movie
Worst of the Worst
Most Anticipated for 2009
Before any votes can be cast, we first need to nominate our choices for the Polls!
Please use this thread to cast your nominations - and this thread only. You may nominate three choices for each category, in place of first, second and third. After a week (although I may increase this to 10 days), the nominations thread will close and your entries counted. Your first placed nomination will score three points, your second two points and your third only the one point. The five highest scoring entries will then be put forward to the Polls where you then vote for your favourite.
Please use the categories above as your template (or, as you’ll see, with my own nominations immediately following). Please also keep your nominations to just the one post. We all have the facility to edit our own posts, so, if after a couple of days, you change your mind or, if you choose to nominate in only two or three categories to begin with before adding to more a few days later, please do so in your original nominations post. Please feel free to use the thread to debate, discuss and ridicule everybody else’s nominations (the ridiculing is particularly important); however, we will only count your nominations from your actual nominating post. This makes it a lot easier when counting your nominations later.
This time last year, the following were rewarded for their efforts in 2007:
Best Writer - Ed Brubaker
Best Artist - Bryan Hitch
Best Ongoing Series - New Avengers
Best Limited Series - Next Wave
Best Graphic Novel - League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier
Best Moment - Mina Murray kicking James Bond’s backside (Black Dossier)
Best Comic Book Related Movie - 300
Worst of the Worst - One More Day
Most Anticipated for 2008 - The Dark Knight Returns
I think there’s one here, out of all the above, that’s got a very strong chance of winning again, don’t you?
So, what made you dribble in delightfully orgasmic fan boy (or girl) ecstasy in 2008? What made you rage with all your geeky might? Did you punch the air with joy when Tony Stark fell from grace? Do you really believe Batman is dead? Were you frustrated when you discovered Batman RIP actually ends in Final Crisis 6? Did you stage your own Secret Invasion? Or did you merely start a Brand New Day? Did you kill your cat when Diamond raised their prices? There’s only one way to find out!
NOMINATE!!! (Hands up all those who thought I would say Fight!!!)
If you're a new forum member, an old forum member or even a forum member who's joined but rarely posts, this is your chance to have your say in what, in comics, stood out for you in 2008.
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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Sure, I could tell you I'm nominating my selections first so that you all have a template to work from... but I also wanted to nominate first for a change!!! Yes, this really is the only excitement I have in my life, so please bear with me... and offer Ann your sympathies, for it is she who has the unfortunate task of having to live with me!
Best Writer
1 - Grant Morrison (All Star Superman)
2 - Ed Brubaker (Captain America & Daredevil)
3 - Mark Millar (Fantastic Four & Kick-Ass)
Best Artist
1 - Joe Madureira (Ultimates 3)
2 - Michael Lark (Daredevil)
3 - John Romita Jr (Amazing Spider-Man & Kick-Ass)
Best Ongoing Series
1 - Amazing Spider-Man
2 - All Star Superman
3 - Captain America
Best Limited Series or One-Shot
1 - Giant Size Astonishing X-Men
2 - Avengers / Invaders
3 - Ultimates 3
Best Graphic Novel
1 - The Killing Joke Deluxe Edition
2 -
3 -
Best Moment
1 - Kitty Pryde phasing a giant planet-killing bullet through the Earth (Giant Size Astonishing X-Men)
2 - Spider-Man taunting Norman Osborn with the fact Osborn no longer remembers Spider-Man's secret identity (Amazing Spider-Man 569)
3 - Norman Osborn's meeting with the 'Dark Illuminati' (Secret Invasion 8 & Secret Invasion: Dark Reign)
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1 - The Dark Knight
2 - Iron Man
3 - I've not seen any others so I guess that's it from me in this one
Worst of the Worst
1 - Michael Turner's untimely passing
2 - Diamond's price increase to UK retailers
3 - Secret Invasion
Most Anticipated for 2009
1 - Watchmen
2 - Dark Reign as it, and the Marvel Universe develops, during 2009
3 - Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen (in case anyone's wondering, there would be no Transformers as we know them if not for Jim Shooter... so you could say Transformers counts as comic book-inspired as an addition to the toy line)
And there we have it! I'll be completing my nominations later in the week once I have more time to think about my other choices.
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Web of Fear
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Best Writer
1 - Ed Brubaker (Captain America & Daredevil)
2 - Brian Bendis (Secret Invasion)
3 - Paul Grist (Jack Staff)
Best Artist
1 - Lenil Yu (Secret Invasion)
2 -
3 -
Best Ongoing Series
1 - Daredevil
2 - Captain America
3 - New Avengers
Best Limited Series or One-Shot
1 - Sub Mariner: The Depths
2 - Secret Invasion
3 -
Best Graphic Novel
1 - Killing Joke: Deluxe Edition
2 -
3 -
Honourable mention to Fathom: Definitive Volume One Edition, as it's a TPB.
Best Moment
1 - Red Skull in an Armin Zola robot body (Captain America)
2 - Dark Illuminati reveal
3 - Introduction of Lady Bullseye
Honourable mention to the disappearing pencil trick from The Dark Knight.
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1 - The Dark Knight
2 - Iron Man
3 -
Worst of the Worst
1 - Death of Michael Turner
2 - Diamond's price increase to UK retailers
3 - Ultimates 3
Most Anticipated for 2009
1 - League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century
2 - More RASL
3 - Dark Reign
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norsefire1
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best writer
1. Paul Cornell (captain brition and mi13)
2.mark miller (kick arse)
3.kevin smith (batman)
best artist
1.laurence Campbell (punisher)
2.richard corben (H.P lovecrafts haunt of horror)
3.scott hampton (simon dark)
best ongoing series
1.flash gordon
2.young liars
3. cthulhu tales
best limited series or/one shot
1.punisher x mas
2.greatest hits
3.batman concophany
best graphic novel
1.joker
best moment
1.the rock n roll doc that is greatest hits
2.sadie kicking butt and takeing names in young liars
3. dark horse reprinting old titles such as barb wire
best comic book related movie
1.the dark knight
2.iron man
3.hellboy 2
worst of the worst
1.diamounds price rise
2.all star batman and robin
most anticpated for 2009.
1.league of extraordinary gentlemen : century
2.dark reign
3.wolverine movie
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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In reply to Web of Fear's query concerning Best Moment...
In past years, we've usually nominated Best Moment as something that actually saw print in a comic. Undoubtedly, the disappearing pencil trick from The Dark Knight is a great moment; however, my gut feeling is that we keep it to a moment from the printed comic book page.
I think it could be cinema's greatest moment of 2008 though.
And Ultimates 3? Worst of the Worst? Infidel! I loved it!
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Web of Fear
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OK. The pencil trick has been bumped to an honourable mention.
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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Now where is everybody else...?
I would've thought Bats & Xeall would be flying for me by now after I nominted Amazing Spider-Man for Best Ongoing...
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Reaper
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I'm still compiling my list
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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| Reaper wrote: | I'm still compiling my list  |
A list undoubtedly dominated by Amazing Spider-Man & Ultimates 3!
Then again... maybe not!
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Reaper
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Best Writer:
1) J Michael Straczynski (Thor)
2) John Ostrander (Star Wars Legacy)
3) Dave Brubaker
Best Artist
1) Jan Duursema (Star Wars Legacy)
2) Oliver Coipel (Thor)
3) Artist of Secret Invasion (can't remember name)
Best Ongoing Series
1) Thor
2) Star Wars Legacy
3) Ultimate Spider-Man
Best Limited Series (includes One-Shots)
1) Ultimatum
2) Secret Invasion
3) Punisher War-Zone
Best Graphic Novel (does not include TPB’s)
1) Watchmen (It's been re-released so it is applicable)
2) Heroes
Best Moment
1) Punisher vs Baracuda (Punisher MAX)
2) Xavier dying (Ultimatum)
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1) Dark Knight
2) Iron Man
3) Wanted
Worst of the Worst
1) Ultimates 3 (No surprises there)
2) Amazing Spider-Man
Most Anticipated for 2009
1) Punisher War-Zone Movie
2) The end of Ultimatum
3) Watchmen Movie
Still need to add a few bits.
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CatFang
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Best Writer
- Cy Dethan
- Paul Cornell
- Mike Wolfer
Best Artist
- David Lapham
- Andy Bloor
- Paul Green
Best Ongoing Series
- Gravel
- Captain Britain MI:13
- Young Liars
Best Limited Series (includes One-Shots)
- War Stories: Tasch
- Dan Dare
- Conan: Born on The Battlefield
Best Graphic Novel (does not include TPB’s)
- Joker hard cover
- Coraline
- Owly 5 (it is the 5th graphic novel in a series - does this count?) If not then the Killing Joke reissue. (Edited to change Pride of Baghdad)
Best Moment
- "I will piss bullets down your throats until you are very, very, sorry" - Starship Troopers: Bad Blood
- "We don't like to make a fuss" - Captain Britain MI:13
- The Freak Angels free online experiment
Best personal moment - getting Warlock sketches for Manny and me and chatting to Jim Starlin himself - guess no one else is going to vote for that though.
Best Comic Book Related Movie
- Iron Man
- Dark Knight
- Wanted
Worst of the Worst
- What happened to Heroes
Most Anticipated for 2009
- Cancertown
- Grandville
- LXG Century
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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Firstly, I'm going to keep the nominations running a while longer. I'd like to thank everyone who has nominated so far; however, there are quite a few more who haven't come forward yet. It's not too surprising; it is a busy time of year after all (believe me, December & January are my two busiest at work).
Secondly:
CatFang I'm under the impression that Pride of Baghdad was released in 2007... unless there's a sequel I'm unaware of. It could be me there so I'd appreciate confirmation. If that is indeed the case, then I'm afraid I'm going to need a replacement nom from the remarkable Cat.
Reaper Isn't Watchmen a TPB?
And I know you don't mean that about Ultimates 3 really...
I'm sorry if I'm being a stickler but we need to keep the rules reasonably level... although I am wrestling with my conscience concerning the Graphic Novel category; there's a part of me that would love to accept TPB's too.
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CatFang
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Ah - sorry.
Mine says 2008 inside but maybe it is a second printing or something. I'll edit the post when I think of something else.
I've been reading a lot of old stuff recently so its quite hard!
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Reaper
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I'm there's an ethical question with putting a nomination in for your other half
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CatFang
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He's one of my favourite writers - other half or not
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Starman
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Best Writer
1 - Brubaker
2 - Dan Abnett
3 - J Michael Straczynski
Best Artist
1 - David Finch
2 - Alex Ross
3 - Gary Frank
Best Ongoing Series
1 - Captain America
2 - New Avengers
3 - Thor
Best Limited Series or One-Shot
1 - Secret Invasion
2 - Puisher Warzone
3 - Superman and Batman vs werewolves and vampires
Best Graphic Novel
1 - The Joker HC
2 - Wolfmen
3 - Freak Angels
Best Moment
1 - Tony Stark being labeled a Villain
2 - Norman Osborne going Crazy in the final pages of Dark Reign
3 - Elvis found alive and well and living with the Skrulls
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1 - Iron Man
2 - wanted
3 - Dark Knight
Worst of the Worst
1 - Diamond
2 - The Loss of Micheal Turner
3 - Brand New Day
Most Anticipated for 2009
1 - A New American President
2 - Dark Reign
3 - Transformers 2:
Can i suggest a best new series?
or a most surprising hit or miss for the year?
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God
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Best Writer
1 - Brian Michael Bendis
2 - Mark Millar
3 - J Michael Straczynski
Best Artist
1 - Greg Land
2 - Bryan Hitch
3 - Stuart Immonen
Best Ongoing Series
1 - Ultimate Spider-Man
2 - New Avengers
3 - Thor
Best Limited Series or One-Shot
1 - Annihilation: Conquest
2 - Secret Invasion
3 - Ultimate Iron Man
Best Graphic Novel
1 -
2 -
3 -
Best Moment
1 - The Dark Illuminati reveal at the end of Secret Invasion
2 - The return to the Ultimate universe of Gwen Stacy
3 - The return of Nick Fury
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1 - Iron Man
2 - Incredible Hulk
3 - Dark Knight
Worst of the Worst
1 - Kitty Pryde dying
2 - Ultimate Fantastic Four ending (yeah well screw you, I liked it)
3 - The amount of money I spend on comics...
Most Anticipated for 2009
1 - Dark Reign, specifically Iron Man's "World's Most Wanted" and War Machine
2 - Seeing what's left of the Ultimate universe when Ultimatum ends
3 - Seeing how the new New Avengers line-up pans out
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Batmanuel
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Oh this is such a tough one, why is that when you are put on the spot your mind goes blank?
Still without further delay, and also with a special thanks to the Boy Wonder for making the effort to make this possible, Thanks Buddy
Here we go, ho ho !
Best Writer
1 - Bendis (just for the sheer volume of good ideas)
2 - Terry Moore (Echo has been very interesting indeed)
3 - JMS (for Thor Nuff Said)
Best Artist
1 - Jack Kirby
2 - Steve Ditko
3 - Don Heck
Oh 2008, sorry i thought you said 1968
OK i will start again
Best Artist
1 - Terry Moore
2 - Alex Ross
3 - Niko Henrichon (for the beautiful work on Pride of baghdad)
Best Ongoing Series
1 - Young Liers
2 - Rest (Im really enjoying this)
3 - Echo
Best Limited Series or One-Shot
1 - Secret Invasion
2 - Puisher War-Zone
3 - Avengers / Invaders
Best Graphic Novel
I dont read a lot of Graphic Novels, and here are the three i would nominate if i had too
1 - Pride of Baghdad
2 - Stan Lee's Soapboxes
3 - Wolfmen (best Independent original GN by far)
Best Moment
1 - Tony Stark becomes most wanted
2 - Maria Hill becomes second most wanted
3 - Thor telling Iron Man to Walk (home)
Best Comic Book Related Movie
1 - Iron Man
2 - Dark Knight
3 - Wanted
Worst of the Worst
1 - Spider man BRAND NEW DAY
2 - The mass slaughter in Palestine
3 - the rest of the world allowing israel to commit mass murder
Most Anticipated for 2009
1 - Dark Reign
2 - world war three. (The world vs Israel)
3 - The end to the attempted genocide of the palestinian people
Phew,
Yes i know that some of the answers are not topical to comics, but what can i say, if Nic can nominate her better half, i can declare war on Israel, besides i'm a Mod, so sue me
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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OK, I need to close the nominations thread soon...
You have until end of play Sunday 18th January to either post or conclude your nominations. After that, this thread is dead.
And then let battle commence...
In other news...
Bats - We covered this one elsewhere, but Pride of Baghdad is ineligible for selection. The graphic novel was released in 2006 and, as far as I'm aware, subsequent re-prints haven't seen the addition of all-new material or have been updated in any significant manner (unlike The Killing Joke where all of the original art was re-coloured). Please let me know if I'm wrong; otherwise, unless you change your nominations, Stan Lee's Soapbox (which I think could be counted as it's both a TPB and a Graphic Novel all-in-one due to its presentation and all-new material) will take first place.
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Robin The Boy Wonder
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This thread is now officially closed.
I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post their nominations for the Whatever Comics Awards 2008.
At some stage over the next seven days, I'll be posting the Polls onto the website; however, please bear with me... in the middle of all that is my stag night...
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