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| kingmouse |
The 199 -possible Initiative spoilers if you're a bit behindOk, so we now know that the 198 was in fact a lie and that 199 mutants retained their powers after M-Day. The 199th is codenamed Mutant Zero and has been kept secret by the military for use in the Shadow Initative (the secret 51st superteam which even Stark doesn't seem to know about). Dan Slott has said that the masked mutant is a well known character and that the reveal will be a big one and not an "Oh it's random Morlock number 3" or something like that.So the million doller question is, who is Mutant Zero? 
I'm thinking Jubilee since she'd be about the right size for the costume, it's Asian themed and Marvel have already said that she'll get her powers back at some point because she's already been revealed to be the last mutant in the far future. Any other thoughts? |
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| Guest |
Jubilee is a member of the New Warriors at the mo.... | ||
| kingmouse |
Well if it's Jean then I'm going back to DC. 
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| Reaper |
Heh I think people would drop Marvel for that one | ||
| Longshot |
it cant be polaris can it, she has been seen since the house of m so i have answered my own question. | ||
| Xeall |
how about this for a theory (which everyone will groan to and shout let it go):
Its a mutant already about, but they are a skrull pretending to be this person and the one in the suit is real...no wait that just tarded. Has marrow been seen in a while, or did she die? then again house of m brought enough people back... |
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| Longshot |
Nope, marrow was just in X-factor, i think she was depowered, as was the blob, that was well depressing, he was just a flabby flabby guy.
I really cant think who it could be, they have more people in x-men teams at the moment than they ever have, and all the women i know about are accounted for, even Skids was just in Uncanny. |
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| Xeall |
Please say it's one of the x-statix! Any one else actually ever read that? | ||
| Longshot |
I read a couple of the late X-force, before they became statics, didnt they all die every issue thou, so they wouldnt be eligable. | ||
| Xeall |
yes every god damn one died which is why it would be hilarious to make a bad ass character out of one that somehow survived. the guy whos power was to feel everything really sensitivly, awesome the first marvel emo. Marvel emo's...delete this post before stan lee see's it and makes it!!!! No Stan back in the box! | ||
| The Rascal King |
Earth-3M0
A CD, thrown so hard from another dimension, because the music was so god-awful, lands in the middle of downtown Manhatten. Curious to see weather he can capitalise on it, Iorn Man inserts it into his suits CD-tray (you don't want to know where that is) Before long, he is painting his suit black, the legs are far tighter than seems possible, and yet they are still worn around his thighs. A studded belt seemingly holds it in place. Spider-Man has donned the black suit, and in his spare time, struts around, shooting looks at everyone, and crying into his LiveJournal. The Sentry has cut and died his hair, spiking it at the back, with one long fringe covering his eye. The Hulk is enraged that no one understands him. Other heroes try to escape, but alas, the infection is too much. Soon every hero has fallen prey to this new disease. The last few remaning sane folk survive underground, listening to Ska, it having proven the only effective form of defence against the virus. How much longer can they hold out, in a world full of skinny jeans and fringes? Will they survive to see another Summer of Ska? |
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| Xeall |
You fool don't give thema plot, what have i done??? no one understands its my pain.......OH NO!!!!!!!!! BANG........................... | ||
| The Rascal King |
Fortunatly, I am more immune to Emo than most, thanks to my seal, it acts like a barrier, a sheild, so that the crap can't affect me.
Plus the music I do listen to cancels it out, effectivly flushing from my system. I will be the last pair of baggy trousers standing! |
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| Reaper |
My biker jacket renders me immune and the shotguns keeps the infected population down too....... | ||
| kingmouse |
Maybe it's Tabby Boom Boom! That would be freakin hilarious.
What's Mystic up to at the moment? |
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| Longshot |
Boomer [Time bomb, Boom Boom, Meltdown, whatever you want to call her] i believe is still an agent of H.A.T.E
I think you mean danielle Moonstar by mystic [ i might be wrong] is depowered, i remember seeing it in a panel in a endangered species shot. |
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| The Rascal King |
Nah, they destroyed H.A.T.E.
At the end, they were flying around in State 51, after killed the baby M.O.D.O.K, and the Devil Dinosaur. |
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| kingmouse |
Nah, I meant Mystique but I Myspelled.
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| Longshot |
She is on the adjectiveless X-men team, with rogue.
When did they stop the nextwave thing then??? before or after M day??? Any idea where Husk is these days??? or could it just be random alpha flight character #3??? |
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| The Rascal King |
Nextwave was wayyyyy after M-Day. | ||
| Reaper |
And these last few posts have me completely in the dark 
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| Xeall |
dude if you haven't read next wave |
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| Reaper |
I've been told to but I have barely enough time to keep up with the series I get already. | ||
| kingmouse |
It's one of the best things you'll ever read. It flushes Watchmen's head in the toilet and then goes looking for Dark Knight's lunch money.
Boom! |
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| Xeall |
not boom...splode! Any comic with a charcter called captain *@&% is awesome |
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| kingmouse |
Back on topic...
Psi-Lock? |
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| Longshot |
nope, still with chris claremont [he wouldnt let her go, i heard that they actually got married] in the Exiles. |
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| kingmouse |
Ooo! What about that Native American chick? The one who was being stalked by a sinister bear. She's already shown up in Initiative and hung out with Trauma, and she is depowered. | ||
| Xeall |
Do you mean the one that gave that weird speechabout controlling fear powers to one of the newbies? can't remember who that was | ||
| The Rascal King |
Tick tick tick, boom!
Whenever I hear that song, Boom-Shake the Room, I always think of Tabby. 
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| Longshot |
Danielle Moonstar, as i said above, are we looking for someone who is depowered then, cause it really could be her then. She has worked for S.H.I.E.L.D before and has been known to show her dark side. |
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| Xeall |
Intresting thought i had and told batmanuel.
Scarlet witch? |
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| kingmouse |
It's possible. From issue 5 we know that her powers are unspecific (she can move fast and is good in combat) but they can only be activated sparingly. They also made a point that it would be dangerous to call her by her real name, so Wanda seems to be the top candidate. Afterall, someone has to kill Hawkeye again. 
But even if we solve Mutant Zero then we still have to speculate on who the Scarlet Spider Squad are. From the way they finish each other's sentences I'm thinking rogue Maddox dupes. But a mate of mine suggested the idea that since the Iron Spider suite took records of Peter's dna they could have cloned him 3 times over leading to the return of Ben Riley. Now that would be cool. |
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| Xeall |
My thought about that is just that the suit allows them to react quickly. Another clone saga would have spiderfans up in arms. Ben reily is dead for a reason. Spidey is gonna whoop them all anyway. | ||
| The Rascal King |
I was under the impression that they were just grunts in suits.
Xeall is right, another Clone nonsense would really piss people off. Though it would throw Peter an awful lot. They could be Androids in the suit? |
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| Xeall |
hmm clutching at straws, next you'll be saying tony stark is just controlling 3 extra suits. | ||
| Reaper |
I was also under the impression they were just three grunts trained to use the suits. | ||
| kingmouse |
Nah, Slott's said they're all existing characters who will have their identities revealed at some point. | ||
| Guest |
Three grunts who have been feed Peter Parkers genetic material!!! 
Or maybe, after Clor we get the three Spones!!!! Also, how about yet another return for Jean Grey and the Pheonix force for our mysterious mutant? |
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| Xeall |
I get what your saying....but WHAT? its should just be 3 grunts, they really aren't worth keeping as main stay characters, we know they'll whoop peter, he'll come back ruin them and then it will all be over. All the initative avengers are poor versions of something he's owned before. Actually have spiderman and thor ever fought 1v1? |
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| Robin The Boy Wonder |
I doubt it - the return would likely be covered in the X-Men titles proper, wouldn't it...? That, and the X-Editor would likely make it another massive event! |
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| kingmouse |
I doubt they'll meet their end with Spidey. Slott's running a tight ship on Initiative and I'd say it's likely that he's already got a fate planned out for the spiders that will take place involving his own characters rather than a cameo by Parker.
Besides, it's not like there isn't room for more than one Spider based hero in the Marvel U (regardless of how many of them Venom might eat )
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| Xeall |
As was said in issue 5(?) the scarlet spiders are built to be replacements for spiderman. i do believe that they will have to get involved with spidey just to show how similair in strength and ability they are to him. | ||
| kingmouse |
Well they tangled with him in issue 3 (i think) or at least took down the villains that he was targeting.
If they stick around as long term characters then perhaps they'll find their way into Spidy's book but I can see their story begining and ending within the pages of initiative. |
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| Xeall |
that they might doesn't mean mr parker isn't gonna tangle with the initaitive again. i.e in their comic | ||
| Reaper |
I would be surprised if there wasn't some big punch up between them, its almost guaranteed to happen in a showdown type of way. | ||
| The Rascal King |
Still agree with Xeall on this one, Spidey will take them out, hands down. | ||
| Reaper |
He'd have to, he's the original and he does the moves instinctively not because he's been trained or programmed too. | ||
| The Rascal King |
Exactly. Even if Stark has programed in the Spider Sense, they don't have the years of experience to react instictivly to it like Peter does. | ||
| Robin The Boy Wonder |
Well... considering Dan Slott writes both Avengers: Initiative and, soon, Amazing Spider-Man... I would say a showdown is inevitable - and it's not going to matter which one of the two it takes place in. | ||
| kingmouse |
Ah, didn't know that. Guess it could be on the cards then. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make it that far. Initiative has a very big cast right now and if I had to draw a list of who was most likely to bite it before the end of this arc then the spiders would be about second. |
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| Robin The Boy Wonder |
Here's an interview with Dan Slott about Avengers: Initiative...
Dan Slott on Avengers: Initiative |
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| Longshot |
I can easily read one thing into this, Buy My Comic[s].
I would have thougth from what I can tell of one more day and after that I would have thought that Spidey would be sticking to his own book for a while, no silly cameos. I guess the whole spidey event is going to set a new status quo and hopefully one he sticks in his own comic in. But having said that I guess if he is writing the next day stuff then maby he will allow the character to feel right outside his own comic. On a side note is the initiative comic actullay quite good then??? You all seem to know whats going on in it so im assuming your reading it. I am interested in the mutant zero thing so am I missing something else as well. |
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| Reaper |
Its not been too bad, its had some stupid bits and some of the characters are annoying but its better than Spectacular Spider-Man | ||
| kingmouse |
It's the best team book on sale at the moment that doesn't have the word 'Thunder' in the title. You will need to pick up the back issues though because the cast is huge and there's a lot going on. | ||
| The Rascal King |
Your right, Thunderbirds: The Comic rocks.
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| Xeall |
I disagree i think the best comic on the market right now is New avengers even after the last rather poor issue.
Oh and who was right, yeah that was me, i rock. spiderman vs the scarlet spider 2 roughly a decade later(i think). we all know all marvel roads lead to spidey, thunderbolts will have the enevitable show down with spidey sending mr osborn over the edge. Super hero registration is gonna have to get people like spidey or fail, new avengers fight scenes relyon spidey's one liners. He'll even be responsible for the re-birth of phoenix and Cap.....captian grey....shudder. |
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| Robin The Boy Wonder |
Yeah, I think I have to agree with Xeall ( ).
New Avengers is the best team book out there right now. I've not read the last issue yet, although, having flicked through, the first thing that caught my attention is the lack of continuity between New & Mighty...
As for Avengers: Initiative... I have to give it a tentative thumbs-up. I thought the first issue was excellent, the second issue was piss-poor (a sub-standard Hank Pym story was not needed) and the third was quite good. I've not read the WWH tie-ins yet... but they look good. I think either the seventh or eighth issue has been highlighted as a good jumping-on point for new readers but the sixth (not a WWH tie-in) is probably as good as any. That, or wait for the inevitable TPB. It is definitely worth reading but it isn't yet at the status it's Mighty & New brethren currently hold. |
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| Xeall |
the WWH bit has sucked major balls. in my humble opinion. its is feeling a bit like the original x-men, lots of kids given powers they can't control so they are being trained at a school. | ||
| Xeall |
WOW that post i made made no sense what so ever!
So time to bring this one back, Any further guesses on mutant 0? any guesses what Gryich (is that how you spell it?) is up to? Scarlet witch is now out of the window on my earlier guess, Jean grey it is then! |
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