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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Wolverine: So What? Reply with quote

I've been having a bit of a whinge about this on a recent Reviews thread but this one deserves its own, methinks!

Wolverine is clearly one of the great Marvel characters. He appears in a number of team titles (currently Astonishing X-Men and New Avengers) and has two solo titles to boot. Let's not forget his appearances elsewhere throughout the Marvel Universe where he tends to guest-star at least twice a month. He was also the primary character throughout the recent X-Men movies and will shortly have his own solo film to play with. Clearly, Wolverine sells. Kids dig Wolverine.

But how many really good stories have there been...?

Oh, sure, there are some excellent Wolverine moments out there (every other issue of Astonishing X-Men for example) but when was the last time you read a complete story arc that, start to finish, was so damned good that it made you think: 'Shit! That Wolverine is one mean mutha - he's so cool!'

There are a few that come to mind:

Wolverine: Enemy of the State (by Mark Millar & John Romita JR)
Wolverine 1982 Limited Series (by Chris Claremont & Frank Miller)
Wolverine: Origin (by Paul Jenkins & Andy Kubert)

Surely that can't be it?!? Shocked

And so... if he's that good a Marvel character, why is there such a seeming lack of decent Wolverine stories? Sure, Spider-Man is also over-rated but he's had a string of classic stories. But Wolverine...? I don't think so...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I have said before, the best mark millar story was not Enemy of the State or its follow up with J R Jr - it was the oneshot issue set in a consetration camp.

And the first 12 issues of the current volume.

Rhaine of Terror was a painted one shot in the 90's featuring Wolverine and the New Mutants - which I loved.

The Weapon X saga in Marvel Comics Presents.

There have been a couple of good Sam Keith tales over the years - the names of which escape me at the moment.

And I don't consider myself to be a huge Wolverine fan......
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to say the weapon x saga for sure, also to be honest though it does get quite dry in some places i really like larry hama and adam kuberts run on wolverine from #75 to 100. not great but still quite cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK... so there are some good stories... but will people still talk about them five or ten years from now?

I'm fairly confident that the three examples I gave will - and I forgot all about Barry Windsor-Smith's Weapon X; a truly excellent story with killer art to boot.

And yes, people talk about Larry Hama's run.

I don't know. I just don't see Wolverine stories that are gonna stand the test of time as true classics. He's had many a classic moment but it's not the same, is it...? Or can moments define a character in a way that a story can't?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moments are just as important as they build the story of the character more than the story the character is in - if you get my drift.

You can have memorable moments in a bad story, but I cant think of a good story without memorable moments.

After all - Wolverine was sold as a character in Uncanny X-men on two key moments.

The first time he popped his claws when he wasn't wearing his gloves and when he killed a guard at the Hellfire club.

Thats when fandom sat up and took notice.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree completrely, Another example of this is peter davids hulk run, too many stories to list but all perfectly interlinked and all containing some of the most significant moments in the hulks history, Lets not forget that logan is an x-man, and his contribution towards the greates x-men stories is both prominent and irreplacable



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